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Massachusetts Fire Apparatus
[quote name='B95MACKFIRE' date='17 December 2009 - 07:31 PM' timestamp='1261095085' post='352920']

Never get that, two much money. $150.00 or $150,000.00 they will never get that back!

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Agreed. What ever prompted GFD to put a new trailer on a 19-year old B-model in the first place?
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Just checked the Worcester website. Looks like after re-bidding Pierce is the low bidder.
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From the EBay photos it looks like the tiller seat has been enclosed on the Gloucester tiller. The last time I saw it in person at the Middle st. fire in Dec. 2007 it wasn't. I don't see anything else noticeable, so maybe some mechanical work.



It's definitely still a lot of money to spend considering the age of this truck and it's imminent replacement.



I've always been curious about why a new tiller with such an old tractor too. I've seen lots of re-tractored tillers, but this is the only one I can think of that's opposite.
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[quote name='massfirebuff' date='18 December 2009 - 07:51 AM' timestamp='1261139508' post='352997']

From the EBay photos it looks like the tiller seat has been enclosed on the Gloucester tiller. The last time I saw it in person at the Middle st. fire in Dec. 2007 it wasn't. I don't see anything else noticeable, so maybe some mechanical work.



It's definitely still a lot of money to spend considering the age of this truck and it's imminent replacement.



I've always been curious about why a new tiller with such an old tractor too. I've seen lots of re-tractored tillers, but this is the only one I can think of that's opposite.



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It wasn't enclosed in late August, 2009. The guys said that the trailer was horrible and that it never should have been done. It was at that point they told me to climb up there and see how horrible the visibility was. I snapped this photo at that time.


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Lynn, Ma New Buggy

   
Sean O'Brien

North Reading Fire Dept. IAFF L1857

US ARMY/MA NATIONAL GUARD - HHC 1/182ND INFANTRY

EMT-P/AEMD - Atlantic / Cataldo EMS

Boston Citywide 232

[url="http://www.seanophotography.com/"]Sean O'Brien Photography[/url]
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Lenny,

They retire the Mack? you running in the old engine 2 all the time?

   
Sean O'Brien

North Reading Fire Dept. IAFF L1857

US ARMY/MA NATIONAL GUARD - HHC 1/182ND INFANTRY

EMT-P/AEMD - Atlantic / Cataldo EMS

Boston Citywide 232

[url="http://www.seanophotography.com/"]Sean O'Brien Photography[/url]
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[quote name='AMBULANCE34' date='10 January 2010 - 04:53 PM' timestamp='1263159187' post='357624']

Lenny,

They retire the Mack? you running in the old engine 2 all the time?

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That is the spare, the MACK will be back inservice this week...why this has a 4 on it I dont know, Nothing a little paint remover wont take care of......
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Spent a little time today digging through the collection and found some old, not so old stuff from the North Shore. All photos have been bought from various places and the photographers remain unknown.



Danvers Engine 3 - 198? Ford/E-One, one of the few lime green rigs left in service in the area aside from Lynn's ALF's when I was growing up. Definitely one of favorite rigs, saw it plenty here in Beverly for mutual aid.



Photo from collection, photographer unknown.



   
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Here is Danvers Engine 3's former Ford/E-One sporting a more conservative paint job, and running as reserve Engine 4 when this photo was taken sometime in the late 1990's.



Photo from collection, photographer unknown.



   
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Danvers Engine 1's 1997 E\-One 75' quint, looking pretty new in this photo. This piece currently runs as Engine 3.



Photo from collection, photographer unknown.



   
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Salem Ladder 1 - 1983 Maxim 100' with a 1995 refurb by Fire Resources. Originally designated Ladder 2 before the refurb, it became Ladder 1 afterwards. When the Pierce went in service at Ladder 1 it became Ladder 4 briefly, then it was refurbed again with a Pierce cab and has come full circle to be designated Ladder 2 once again. If I have any of that wrong feel free to correct me...that's a lot of information to remember.



Photo from collection, photographer unknown.



   
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Salem Engine 2, a Mack R built by the department mechanic utilizing a Ranger body along with parts from a couple of old Salem Mack B's. It would later see service as Engine 4 and Engine 5.



Photo from collection, photographer unknown.



   
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[quote name='Cap4Engine' date='10 January 2010 - 04:56 PM' timestamp='1263159394' post='357626']

That is the spare, the MACK will be back inservice this week...why this has a 4 on it I dont know, Nothing a little paint remover wont take care of......

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Roga that Cap'n
Sean O'Brien

North Reading Fire Dept. IAFF L1857

US ARMY/MA NATIONAL GUARD - HHC 1/182ND INFANTRY

EMT-P/AEMD - Atlantic / Cataldo EMS

Boston Citywide 232

[url="http://www.seanophotography.com/"]Sean O'Brien Photography[/url]
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[quote name='B95MACKFIRE' date='03 December 2009 - 08:38 AM' timestamp='1259846334' post='350610']

Port Chester NY had two of them a 1948 and a 1954 , this is not Port Chester maybe White Plains NY?

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I believe it was from Nyack, NY. Anyone able to confirm Serial # on the truck ? Should be 9396 if it was from Chelsea H&L in Nyack.
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Anyone know why Beverly went with a quint?
Roy J. Ward
DCFD
Sergeant
Tower 3 Platoon 2
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[quote name='massfirebuff' date='10 January 2010 - 06:06 PM' timestamp='1263163592' post='357645']

Salem Engine 2, a Mack R built by the department mechanic utilizing a Ranger body along with parts from a couple of old Salem Mack B's. It would later see service as Engine 4 and Engine 5.



Photo from collection, photographer unknown.



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might those be Ed Whittier pics?
Ed Power

Engine Company 1

Lynn Fire Department



"Hooper drives the boat Chief"
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[quote name='SinCityJake' date='12 January 2010 - 07:44 PM' timestamp='1263342251' post='358116']

might those be Ed Whittier pics?

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Could be...I have heard that name somewhere before. I bought the Salem E-2 and Danvers E-3 photos on EBay.
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[quote name='DCpsychwardFD' date='12 January 2010 - 07:00 PM' timestamp='1263339640' post='358111']

Anyone know why Beverly went with a quint?

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While I'm not a Beverly FF, I do know this...starting around 2003 the city cut back on overtime, putting Ladder 1 out of service at HQ much of the time, leaving Engine 5's quint in North Beverly the only ladder in the city. Now the new quint runs out of headquarters, with Engine 1 going out of service instead, and the new Truck 1 acting as a jack of all trades in downtown.



If anyone else has anymore info feel free to chip in.
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[quote name='MFD 61 KS' date='06 December 2009 - 01:52 PM' timestamp='1260124379' post='351158']

Do you still have the KME as Engine 3? I was in Salem three years ago and Ladder 1 was the only unit running from No.1 and Engine 3 and Ladder 2 were browned out. How is staffing today and are back fully staffed? Thanks for the info.



Stay Safe Brothers, Rick

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We currently are running 4 engines (1,2,4,and 5), 1 truck (Ladder 1) and the deputy chief. We have increased our manning, so we are able to keep 4 engines and 1 ladder in service 95% of the time. We are due new hires come May (Contractual), so we should be able to start staffing our 2nd truck company (Ladder 2) and a consistent basis. Engine 3 (KME) is still here, A 2nd spare (Engines 3 and 6), but for how much longer I don't know. She's old and tired, but served us EXTREMELY well!!!! Hope this answers you questions. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_12_21.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='3_12_21' />
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[quote name='salemjake55' date='13 January 2010 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1263404790' post='358237']

We currently are running 4 engines (1,2,4,and 5), 1 truck (Ladder 1) and the deputy chief. We have increased our manning, so we are able to keep 4 engines and 1 ladder in service 95% of the time. We are due new hires come May (Contractual), so we should be able to start staffing our 2nd truck company (Ladder 2) and a consistent basis. Engine 3 (KME) is still here, A 2nd spare (Engines 3 and 6), but for how much longer I don't know. She's old and tired, but served us EXTREMELY well!!!! Hope this answers you questions. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_12_21.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='3_12_21' />

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Ray, good to hear the staffing situation is looking up for you guys across the bridge...I can't even remember the last time a 2nd ladder was staffed. This Dad thing is a fulltime job for me, so I haven't been following things like I used to be able too.
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