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07-22-2008, 09:04 PM

[quote name='FM291' post='231737' date='Jul 22 2008, 09:08 ']Pottstown Engine 62?[/quote]

Was 69-62 in the old numbering system. Now Squad 69

07-22-2008, 11:12 PM

[quote name='Bucketman2' post='231933' date='Jul 22 2008, 20:05 ']Was 69-62 in the old numbering system. Now Squad 69[/quote]

Thats correct.

Frank B · 08-14-2008, 04:55 PM

Forksville PA

New WS Darley Ford F 1000gpm pump

Frank B · 08-14-2008, 04:59 PM

WS Darley ID plate, 300gwt & class A Foam system

11-06-2008, 04:37 PM

EUREKA FIRE RESCUE

TARENTUM PA.

ALLEGHENY COUNTY ENGINE 281

1970 ALF/ REHABED BY KENCO 2000GPM / 500TANK/ 20 CLASS A AND 150 CLASS B FOAM

WILL BE REPLACED FIRST PART OF 2009

11-09-2008, 10:34 AM

[quote name='Wing1223' post='259495' date='Nov 6 2008, 16:38 ']EUREKA FIRE RESCUE

TARENTUM PA.

ALLEGHENY COUNTY ENGINE 281

1970 ALF/ REHABED BY KENCO 2000GPM / 500TANK/ 20 CLASS A AND 150 CLASS B FOAM

WILL BE REPLACED FIRST PART OF 2009[/quote]

Boy that thing has a lot of chrome!!

11-09-2008, 05:06 PM

FYI

For those firefighter buffs that are in or visiting Southwestern PA, the Monroeville Fire Department (Allegheny County) has taken delivery of several new units over the past 2 years. Stop by if you haven't done so to update your records.

Co.1

Quint 1 - 2006 Ferrara Ignitor, 77' RM Aerial - 2000 GPM/500 GWT

Co.3

Engine 31 - 2008 Spartan Gladiator/Crimson, 1500 GPM/750 GWT (Not in service yet)

Mini 3 - 2006 Ford F450XLT 4x4/4 Guys, 500 GPM/300 GWT

Co.4

Engine 42 - 2008 Pierce Quantum, 1500 GPM/500 GWT

Co.5

Engine 51 - 2007 E\-One Cyclone II, 1500 GPM/500 GWT (Rescue-Engine)

Tanker 5 - 2007 Kenworth T800W/KME, 1500 GPM/3200 GWT/300 GFT

NEW UNITS IN PRODUCTION OR ON THE DRAWING BOARD

Co.1

Rescue 1 - Manufacturer yet to be determined

Co.5

Truck 5 - 2009 E\-One Cyclone II, 100' Tractor Drawn Aerial

Co.6

Engine 62 - Manufacturer yet to be determined

UNITS THAT WILL BE REPLACED WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR HAVE BEEN SOLD

Co.1

Engine 11 - 1985 American LaFrance Century, 2000 GPM/500 GWT (Last ALF to come out of Elmira before they closed) (Sold to Munhall VFC #5, Allegheny County, PA)

Rescue 1 - 1993 Mack MC100/New Lexington, 22' Walk-In Box (In service)

Co.3

Engine 31 - 1987 Spartan Gladiator/Quality, 1500 GPM/750 GWT (In service)

Mini 3 - 1978 Chevy Scottsdale 4x4/Hamerly, 450 GPM/250 GWT (Unit sold to a private owner)

Co.4

Engine 42 - 1988 E\-One Cyclone, 1500 GPM/750 GWT/40 GFT (Unit sold to Trafford VFD, Westmoreland County, PA)

Co.5

Engine 51 - 1988 E\-One Cyclone, 1500 GPM/750 GWT/40 GFT (Unit has not been sold)

Engine 52 - 1997 E\-One Hush, 1500 GPM/500 GWT (Unit sold to Allegheny Twp, Westmoreland County, PA)

Truck 5 - 1989 E\-One Hurricane, 135' RM Aerial (In service)

Co.6

Engine 62 - 1991 Spartan Gladiator/E-One, 1500 GPM/750 GWT/200 GFT/50 GFT (In service)

There have also been several support units, command units and ambulances purchased but unless someone is interested in those I will not list them.

Tom McDonough

Captain

Monroeville VFC #4

11-09-2008, 05:57 PM

[quote name='mgk110' post='260149' date='Nov 9 2008, 16:42 ']How about some photos of old E52, the open cab ALF Century.[/quote]

the open cab lafrance was sold to united fire company in wall pa

Ladder 68 · 11-09-2008, 08:53 PM

Couple of questions I've wondered about:

Is Monroeville organized and lead by 1 Fire Chief and Command Staff or does each company have their own Fire Chief and Command Staff?

I notice a huge variance in apparatus manufacturers, is each company their own taxing entity or do they receive funds from the town/city/township?

Do they each have their own automatic-aid or mutual-aid agreements with surrounding departments or operate under 1 for all of Monroeville?

Sorry for the questions, just curious.

Thanks in advance.

11-09-2008, 10:10 PM

[quote name='Ladder 68' post='260226' date='Nov 9 2008, 19:54 ']Couple of questions I've wondered about:

Is Monroeville organized and lead by 1 Fire Chief and Command Staff or does each company have their own Fire Chief and Command Staff?

I notice a huge variance in apparatus manufacturers, is each company their own taxing entity or do they receive funds from the town/city/township?

Do they each have their own automatic-aid or mutual-aid agreements with surrounding departments or operate under 1 for all of Monroeville?

Sorry for the questions, just curious.

Thanks in advance.[/quote]

Monroeville has 5 fire companies with over 200 firefighters. We are also fire based EMS and some stations have paid personnel on hand 24/7 for EMS purposes primarily, but all personnel are cross-trained and respond on fire calls as well. All paid employee finances are covered by the individual companies not the Municipality. Each fire company has it's own line staff and administration. The Fire Chief of each company sits on what is known as the Monroeville Fire Chief's Committee (MFCC). This committee is responsible for establishing Municipal wide policies such as running assignments, protective clothing purchases, insurance coverage and agreeing to apparatus specifications and purchases. The MFCC is also is responsible for the Relief Association. The committee does not have control or say on how each fire department is run. Several of the fire companies have residency programs as well which helps supplement our staffing.

The Municipality of Monroeville does financial support each fire department in various ways. The Municipality purchases all aerial trucks and pumpers on a 15-20 year rotation. They also purchase the Mobile Command Unit and in the future may purchase other specialty units such as Air Units. They also handle all fuel and vehicle maintenance costs. Each fire department owns the buildings and property they sit on. Each department is also responsible for their own utilities and other up keep. Each department is responsible for the purchases of specialty and support vehicles such as Rescue Trucks, Squad Trucks, Ambulances and Command Vehicles (Chief's Cars). The MFCC works with the Municipality on a fire apparatus agreement. These agreements are negotiated and renewed every 5 years. This agreement has been in place since 1972.

When it comes to apparatus purchases, all the Fire Chief's must agree on what is being ordered, then the spec is placed out to bid. Yes each company has there preference, but there is a standard spec in which all fire companies are to follow. Anything not covered in the spec is covered financially by the fire company receiving the apparatus. The bids are usually awarded to the lowest bidder IF they meet the spec without too many exceptions. Each piece of apparatus is budgeted for a certain amount of money. Anything over the amount is covered by the purchasing fire company.

As for automatic mutual aid agreements we do have some in place, but they're really only used at large scale events. On all first alarm calls you're getting a minimum of 3 companies and in some cases 2 trucks depending on the location of the call. On a second alarm you're getting the remaining 2 companies. Even though we have a Quint it's not considered as a truck company since we already have 2 aerials over 100'. The Quints primary role is that of an engine company, but if needed it can be utilized as a truck company. There are instances when one of the trucks is OOS and if an inital alarm calls for 2 trucks, a mutual aid truck is automatically notified.

Monroeville responds to over 1500 fire/rescue and 4000 EMS events annually.

Here is the Monroeville apparatus roster.

Co.1

Quint 1 - 2006 Ferrara Ignitor, 77' RM Aerial - 2000/500

Engine 12- 1993 Seagrave JS, 1750/750

Rescue 1 - 1993 Mack MC100/New Lexington, 22' Walk-In Box

Squad 1 - 2004 Ford F350XLT 4D Pickup Truck 4x4

Chief 1 - 1998 Ford LTD

Ambulance 19 - 2006 Ford F350XL/AEV, Type III

Ambulance 18 - 1995 Ford E350XL/McCoy Miller, Type III

Co.3

Engine 31 - 2008 Spartan Gladiator/Crimson, 1500/750

Mini 3 - 2006 Ford F450XLT 4x4/4 Guys, 500/300

Command 32 - 1994 International/LDV, 35' Walk-In

Squad 3 - 2002 Ford Excursion XLT 4x4

Chief 3 - 2002 Ford LTD

Co.4

Truck 4 - 2003 Pierce Lance, 100' RM Ladder Tower - 2000 GPM

Engine 41 - 1996 Pierce Lance, 1500/500

Engine 42 - 2008 Pierce Quantum, 1500/500

Rescue 4- 2001 Spartan Gladiator/Saulsbury, 21' Partial Walk-In

Squad 4 - 2003 Ford F350XLT 4D 4x4/Reading, 8' Box

Chief 4 - 2004 GMC Yukon 4x4

Ambulance 49 - 2007 Chevy 4500/Life Line, Type I

Ambulance 48 - 2001 Ford E450XL/Medtec, Type III

Ambulance 47 - 2004 Ford E450XL/Medtec, Type III

Co.5

Truck 5 - 1989 E\-One Hurricane, 135' RM Aerial

Engine 51 - 2007 E\-One Cyclone II, 1500/500 (Rescue-Engine)

Tanker 5 - 2007 Kenworth T800W/KME, 1500/3200/300

Squad 5 - 2001 Ford F350XLT 4D Pickup Truck 4x4

Chief 5 - 2003 Ford Expedition XLT 4x4

Car 5 - 2007 Ford LTD

Ambulance 59 - 1998 Ford E450XL/Medtec, Type III

Ambulance 58 - 2003 Ford E450XL/Medtec, Type III

Co.6

Engine 61 - 1995 Spartan Gladiator/Quality, 1500/750

Engine 62 - 1991 Spartan Gladiator/E-One, 1500/750/200/50

Rescue 6 - 1999 Spartan Gladiator/Saulsbury, 22' Box

Squad 6 - 2005 Ford F350XLT 4D Pickup Truck 4x4

Chief 6 - 1998 Ford Expedition XLT 4x4

Car 6 - 2002 Ford LTD

Ambulance 69 - 2001 Ford E350XL/Life Line, Type III

ShoreFire · 11-09-2008, 10:39 PM

Ok I'll be the one to ask, why no Co. 2? Btw mighty impressive fleet.

11-09-2008, 10:44 PM

[quote name='ShoreFire' post='260268' date='Nov 9 2008, 21:40 ']Ok I'll be the one to ask, why no Co. 2? Btw mighty impressive fleet.[/quote]

Thanks on the fleet comment. There was a fire company 2 known as Adderly and like many of the original fire companies in Monroeville they had a bar/social club. In 1962 they decided that they didn't enjoy firefighting as much as they did drinking, so they closed up shop and became the AOH Club! Also when you look at a map of Monroeville, companies 2 & 3 (Mellon Plan) were less than 2 miles apart, so they weren't really needed.

11-09-2008, 10:55 PM

I took pictures of the new engine from 4 the other day out at Glick. When I get a chance I'll post a picture of it.

Ladder 68 · (This post was last modified: 11-10-2008, 07:10 PM by Ladder 68.)

Thanks very much for the detailed information on the organization and operations. Very impressive.

I think I have seen an older '03 KW T300/Pierce tanker for Tanker 5. What became of this rig since the current Tanker 5 is a '07 model year?

Thanks.

11-10-2008, 07:27 PM

[quote name='Ladder 68' post='260419' date='Nov 10 2008, 18:08 ']Thanks very much for the detailed information on the organization and operations. Very impressive.

I think I have seen an older '03 KW T300/Pierce tanker for Tanker 5. What became of this rig since the current Tanker 5 is a '07 model year?

Thanks.[/quote]

I will attempt to give you the short version of what transpired. The 2003 Kenworth T300/Pierce was purchased by Co.5 at the direction of the then Fire Chief. Shortly after the apparatus was placed in service a new Fire Chief and Administration was voted into the company. After 2 years the company decided they didn't want it. It was sold to a fire company in New York. Well in 2006 the old Fire Chief was voted back into office and one of his first tasks was to order another tanker. The new Tanker 5 is identically to the original except for the Kenworth chassis is a different model. Some people say Monroeville doesn't need a tanker since we do have an excellent water/hydrant system. Static Pressure on most hydrants is at 150. However we do have several Interstates and limited access highways in our response area where the tanker is nice to have.