The Rest of the Collection Goes to the Block

[68mack]

Most of the pieces I think went to collectors however a salvage yard guy was present but do not know how many he bought and from the last auction he is parting them out. I have no idea what will happen to the ones marked *NO SALE* this auction was swapped with another one that occurs on Sept 16th 2006. [url="http://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/167062.html"]http://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/167062.html[/url] This auction is for calssic cars to be held at Pechin Shopping Village in Dunbar, PA. The reason why they swapped it was because of a fire had occured at that location and the NO SALE Fire Apparatus may show up at that one. Felixthecat I have no idea about the ALF Pioneer as to its orgins maybe someone who has a database can lookit up and I can not recall if it had any markings on it.

[wardengine]

chris; on page 2 item 30, you have norwich maxim ladder as being sold for 1700.00,it is still pictured on their next auction list

[GA_Dave]

34.) 1982 Ward LaFrance From Avonmore VIN 80172 sold for $1300

Based on that VIN, that rig is a 1967 that originated with Newtown Square, PA. There were no WLF rigs built past 1980.



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[LarimerSta1]

I have no idea about the ALF Pioneer

The Pioneer was from the Paintertown VFD in Westmoreland County, PA, just north of Irwin



The Coral-Graceton International/Howe was a 1962 and in service up until 2001. The motor makes a very bad rapping, possibly a bad bearing. It sat outside the fire hall for about a year before it was purchased by Mr. D'Amico.



The Boston rig was originally from Crafton, Allegheny County PA. It was still in service up until around 2000 (The picture I have of it is from 1998)



The West Newton Aerial was ex. Harrisburg, ex. Steelton in Pennsylvania



Sad to see so much history being bid away, but it is better then scrapping the whole collection.

[e290l103]

I'll give some history on some of these, from the databases. maybe one of the new owners can use the info. I'll go page by page. first page 1.



rig #6, the ALF N753 is Ex-Bethel Park, Pa a 1959 ALF 1000/500.



rig #7 was bought new by Jefferson, PA. its a 1961 Seagrave 900KB with a 1000 gallon pump.

[e290l103]

#12 is a 1954 still marked for the original owner Duquesne, PA.



#14 from W. Brownsville is a 1956 ex-Ebensburg, PA



#28 from Irwin, PA is a 1954 ex-Albany, NY.



#29 is Ex-Hannastown, PA, a 1948.



Mike.

[e290l103]

#33 is a 1950 Ex-University Heights, OH



Mike

[e290l103]

#60 is a 1952 from Elizabeth, PA



#64 I have as a 1969 sold to Pittsburgh, PA. I did not know that Pittsburgh had a WLF of that era, so it could be a case as in the Baltimore thread, where the rig was listed as being sold to an "area" as opposed to a specific dept.





#67 is a 1952 ex-Williamsport, PA





Mike

[e290l103]

#71 is a 1958 x-Yorkville, OH



#79 is a 1955 65' MM Ex-Crafton, PA



#81 is a 1971 CF redone by Beaverbilt in 1993 Ex-Dauphin, PA E381



Thanks for the pics and great info on the rigs, filled in several blanks.



Mike

[wardengine]

NICE JOB GANG WITH ALL THE INFORMATION

[Guest]

<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yourock.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Great job,68Mack,on reporting on this auction! I would like to add some info for some of the rigs that I shot while in service.

ONO,PA.-63FordC/ALF 1000/750

Morrell,PA.-68 FordF/AMERICAN 750/1000

PT.Marion,PA.-79GMC/E1 1000/750

Punxsutawney,PA.-64ALF900 1000/250/85' xClairton,PA.

Bobtown,PA. 57 Chevy 1300 gal. x oil tanker

Some notes on some others; the Brownsville brush is a 62-65 Dodge PW, Hiller's Howe is a 67? 1250/750, and the tower from Connellsville has an interesting history- it started as a 1970 model for Detroit,MI., their 1st Sutphen tower! It was sold to CFD in the late 1980's and a new Duplex cab installed. After about 15 yrs. of service, it was replaced by a New Lexington quint owned by the vollie co. in CFD-New Haven Hose Co.

It's good to see the semi-cab Mack CF from Monarch get a good home!

Finally, good news about the Hancock,MD. rig; this 1950 Dodge/American 500/500 was Hancock's 3rd motor rig. When I saw their members at the CVVFA parade in Greencastle,PA. on Sat., I advised them that this truck was being auctioned that day, after recovering from their surprise, info was obtained from the CAFAA SPAAMFAA web site and contact was made with the auctioneers before noon! Hopefully a piece of Hancock VFC history will be returning to MD.! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> The Doctor

[NationalPoliceCarArchives]

Mike who owns the scrap yard that bought the majority of the rigs that sold for low prices (700-900) asked me to point out that he wants to sell the 67 Mack (from Page 2) in one piece for what he has in it. His yard is located on Rt. 30 in Stoystown, PA...but I don't have the name of it on me as I sit here, maybe someone else remembers what it is called, they introduced him in the middle of the auction since he's parting out 18 of the WLF/ALFs he bought in the spring.

[NationalPoliceCarArchives]

[quote name='wardengine' post='20209' date='Aug 7 2006, 03:36 ']chris; on page 2 item 30, you have norwich maxim ladder as being sold for 1700.00,it is still pictured on their next auction list[/quote]



I think that might be more of a place-holder than anything else. It was the first image in the photo gallery to the fire truck auction as well.

[wardengine]

[quote name='James' post='20557' date='Aug 8 2006, 07:57 ']Mike who owns the scrap yard that bought the majority of the rigs that sold for low prices (700-900) asked me to point out that he wants to sell the 67 Mack (from Page 2) in one piece for what he has in it. His yard is located on Rt. 30 in Stoystown, PA...but I don't have the name of it on me as I sit here, maybe someone else remembers what it is called, they introduced him in the middle of the auction since he's parting out 18 of the WLF/ALFs he bought in the spring.[/quote]



i guess the assumptions of all the rigs sold to avoid the crusher wasn't true???that sucks

[68mack]

I have several requests about the other auction but however I did not photo every piece but I will post the pics that I took of that one. But I will give all the info I have in one post complete with all of the info that I have (as I did before going by the auctioneers listing i.e. a 1982 that was actually a 1960's rig. Anyone with pictures or additional info is welcome. Since their may be a conflict in numbers Please refer to these as INV. # as the other auction was the auction order #.

29.) Unknown Year American LaFrance Pumper Poor Condition Maroon Gas 12975K VIN PD6792 Bidder 225 $855.20

30.) 1971 American LaFrance Pumper Forbes Road FD Poor Condition Yellow Gas 27305K 2613hrs Automatic VIN PD12890 Bidder 225 $855.30

91.) 1945 American LaFrance Ladder "BIG RED" Poor Condition Red V12 Gas 26382 VIN L2116 Bidder 387 $1019.45

92.) We all know this one from the 2nd auction appearantly the bidder fell through and the auctioneer sold it at the 2nd auction 1969 Mack CF-600 Pumper Monarch VFD Fair condition Red 6 cyl Gas 199166K VIN CF608F1040 Bidder 92 $2080.00

93.) Unknown Year Mack C85 Pumper Fair Condition Red 6Cyl Gas 22584K Industry Fire Company VIN C85F1247 Bidder 369 $1107.00

94.) 1942 Mack Pumper Poor condition Red Gas 19168K Town of Windsor FD VIN 4551133 Bidder 369 $1503.00

110.) 1947 Hahn Fire Truck Fair Condition Red 05616K 6 Cyl Gas Millersville VFD VIN 6484G Bidder 167 $2510.00

112.) 1966 Chevrolet 60 Series Viking Poor condition Red Gas 38K Tower Hill VFD VIN HT6836P102594 Bidder 225 $855.01

114.) 1958 Dodge 700 Series Fire Truck Fair Condition Red 130455K V8 Hemi Bruco 500GPM Cassandra VFD VIN 68D7H06070 Bidder 167 $1610.00

124.) 1972 Ford F-900 Pumper Fair condition Red 20276K V8 Gas Barton 750GPM American Body Perryopolis Twp VFD VIN F90LVN72129 Bidder 216 $1216.00

125.) 1974 Ford C904L Pumper Poor condition Green & White Gas 24K Conneaut Lake VFD VIN C90LVU27236 Bidder 225 $855.20

128.) 1952 American LaFrance Pumper Fair condition Red Gas 15K West Newton VFD VIN L9453 Bidder 128 $3501.01

138.) Unknown Year Seagrave Pumper Fair condition Red V8 Diesel 19K West Brownsville, Indian Hill VFD VIN 900KB1000 Bidder 391 $1150.00 *I saw this one for sale again at the Allentown Spring Melt*

145.) Unknown Year American LaFrance Pumper Fair condition Yellow Diesel Somerset VFD VIN L9074 Bidder 225 $1500.00

166.) Similar situation as #92 but *NO SALE* and was still a *NO SALE* at the 2nd auction 1959 International 190 Firetruck pumper Fair Condition Red 15717K V8 Gas Monogahela FD VIN FA48155F *NO SALE*

167.) Unknown Year American LaFrance Firetruck Pumper Fair Condition Red 47264K V8 Gas Buckeye Lake VFD VIN E061807 Bidder 79 $700.00

168.) Unknown Year Ford Fire Truck Pumper Fair Condition White Gas Hyde Park VFD VIN C85RU480076 Bidder 176 $1950.00

169.) 1980 Chevrolet Pumper Fair Condition Red V8 Gas Automatic Rich Hill VFD VIN C17DEAV156525 Bidder 225 $855.01

170.) 1959 Seagrave 900A Firetruck Ladder Fair Condition Red 11745K V12 Gas City of Altoona VFD VIN K9825 Bidder 173 $2000.00

171.) 1952 GMC 6X Army Equipment Pumper Fair Condition Red 38965K 6 Cyl Gas Automatic Smithton VFD VIN 107 Bidder 187 $1200.00

172.) 1965 American LaFrance Firetruck pumper Fair condition Red & White 6 cyl Gas 40758K South Greensburg VFD Bidder 79 $850.00

173.) 1979 Ford F-8000 Series Firetruck Ladder Fair condition Red 28271K V8 Cat 636 Automatic Mont Co. MD (I think this was a new tractor for I think a '60's Pirsch ladder) VIN U80DVEJ7128 Bidder 115 $3565.00

174.) 1952 Federal Motor Tk Co. Firetruck Pumper Fair Condition Red 9224K 6 Cyl Gas Connoquessing VFD VIN 155979 Bidder 103 $1001.00

175.) Unknown Year F-750 Series Firetruck Tanker Fair condition Red V8 Gas 16693K Springfield VFD VIN N759U565489 Bidder 372 $2350.00

176.) 1959 Ford F-800 Series Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Red 12722K V8 Gas Monarch FD VIN F8Df9UY2455 Bidder 368 $1500.00

177.) 1953 Chevrolet 6500 Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Red 8832K 6 Cyl Gas River Ranch FD VIN X53F003744 Bidder 176 $1981.00

178.) 1960 International Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Red V8 Gas 15016K Zoar VFD VIN FA63748F Bidder 209 $1600.00

[68mack]

179.) 1954 International Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Red 6 Cyl Gas 21890K Osage VFD VIN R1856630302 Bidder 333 $1179.00

180.) 1946 American LaFrance Foamite pumper Fair condition Red 9384K 2537K motor V12 Gas Patterson TWP VFD VIN L2050 Bidder 98 $1200.00

181.) 1969 Ford F-750 Series Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Red 21181K 2256 Hours V8 Gas Dawson VFD VIN F75FUF51602 Bidder 79 $750.00

182.) 1950 Federal Firetruck Pumper Fair condition White 13199K 6 Cyl Gas Dembo Fire Dept VIN 153595 Bidder 385 $2099.00

183.) Unknown Year Mack Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Red 6 Cyl Diesel Ellsworth VFD VIN C85F1169 Bidder 369 $2001.00

184.) Unkown year Mack CF-600 Pumper 1000/750 Fair condition red 6 cyl Diesel Zelienople VFD VIN CF611F101066 Bidder 369 $2001.00

185.) Unknown Year Seagrave Ladder Truck 85' Fair condition White 15040K V-12 Gas South Brownsville VFD VIN H2735 Bidder 33 $2080.00 *NOTE: This one has been seen running around on the Balt/DC area Muster Parade Circuit*

186.) 1947 International American LaFrance Pumper Fair condition White 6 Cyl Gas 7827K Heidelburg VFD VIN KS620824 Bidder 164 $4001.51

187.) 1971 Interantional Loadstar Pumper Fair condition Red 18000K V8 Gas 4x4 Dawson Leisenring VFD VIN 486070H06628 Bidder 164 $1050.50

188.) 1965 International Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Red 20482K V8 Gas Wellsburg VFD VIN FD981276 Bidder 333 $779.00

189.) 1948 American LaFrance Ladder truck Fair condition Light Blue 17997K 6 Cyl Gas Unity VFD VIN L3849 Bidder 142 $1254.00

190.) Unknown Year American LaFrance Ladder Fair condition Red 6 Cyl Gas 02546K 17925hrs Duquesne VFD VIN L3068 Bidder 142 $1554.00

208.) Unknown Year Peter Pirsch & Sons Ladder Truck Poor condition Rust Red 6 Cyl Gas 12533K VIN 2117 Bidder 369 $1313.00

209.) Unknown Year American LaFrance Pumper Fair condition Red 31768 Motor 14011K Highway 6 Cyl Diesel Bentlyville VFD VIN 10288 Bidder 331 $1111.00

210.) 1967 American LaFrance Pumper Good condition Red & White 6 Cyl Gas 26219K 38884K motor Larimer Twp VFD VIN 81736 Bidder 221 $2000.00

211.) 1971 American LaFrance Aerofire Ladder Fair condition V8 Diesel 26595K 1341 hours Hazlet VFD VIN 812166 Bidder 369 $2223.00

212.) 1967 Seagrave Fire Truck Pumper Fair condition 5939K 8914 Hours 6 Cyl Gas 1000GPM 2 stage pump Allenport VFD VIN Q4235 Bidder 151 $2855.00 *Note: This is reported to be the last piece that was purchased before he passed away*

213.) Unknown Year Mack MB-600 Fire truck pumper Fair condition 22512K Red V-6 Diesel Isabella VFD VIN MB685FC1128 Bidder $2001.00

214.) 1979 Chevrolet Firetruck Pumper Fair condition Automatic Big Block chevy V8 Gas 57612K Windber VFD VIN V17DE9V140921 Bidder 151 $1010.00 I think this one was an E\-One *Note: Saw this one for sale on E*BAY located in Carmel IN about 2-3 months ago*

215.) 1970 GMC Firetruck Pumper cab over Fair condition 14555K Gas Yellow Oklahoma VFD VIN T17NE9V555508 Bidder 369 $909.00

216.) 1968 American LaFrance Pumper Fair condition Blue 4x4 46918K motor 14956K highway 750GPM wooden ladders repowred with Detroit Diesel 6V-71 ex Pittsburgh E-8 West Brownsville VFD Indian Hill Bidder 151 $2525.25 *Note: Seen in IN on the Muster Circuit*

219.) 1967 Ward LaFrance Pumper Poor condition Red 6 Cyl Diesel 16550K Unknown Orgin VIN 80265 Bidder 225 $855.52

326.) 1941 American LaFrance Pumper Poor condition 18K miles Chalk Hill Fire Dept. VIN L1365 Bidder 213 $1025.00

327.) Unknown Year Ford Seagrave Pumper Poor condition Red Grindstone VFD VIN G80WL310312 Bidder 225 $855.20

328.) Unknown Year Ford Firetruck Pumper Poor condition Red Grindstone VFD VIN C70DUF55865 Bidder 225 $855.02

636.) 1933 Howe Defender Fire Truck Poor condition RESTORATION BEGUN Red 6 Cyl Gas 11023K ex. Castle-Shannon VFD (originally GREEN) Blaine Hill VFD VIN 6284(6384) Bidder 98 $1250.00 *NOTE: Piece was resold at 2nd auction for unkown reason)

640.) 1941 American LaFrance Firetruck Poor condition RESTORATION BEGUN partially dismantled 11085 NBFD#1 (Brownsville??) Vin L1571 Bidder 225 $855.20

676.) Unknown Year Ford Firetruck poor condition Red Flatwoods VFD 9BEQH33928 Bidder 225 $855.95



My guesses are that bidder 225 is a scrap dealer as all prices (except 1) were about $800-$900 and the number of auctions won. I will go through my photos that I took during the preview later today and will post if I see that are acceptable. I only photo'd the one that I might be interested in +/-.

[68mack]

91.) 1945 American LaFrance Ladder "BIG RED" Poor Condition Red V12 Gas 26382 VIN L2116 Bidder 387 $1019.45

[68mack]

92.) We all know this one from the 1st auction appearantly the bidder fell through and the auctioneer sold it at the 2nd auction 1969 Mack CF-600 Pumper Monarch VFD Fair condition Red 6 cyl Gas 19166K VIN CF608F1040 Bidder 92 $2080.00

[68mack]

93.) Unknown Year Mack C85 Pumper Fair Condition Red 6Cyl Gas 22584K Industry Fire Company VIN C85F1247 Bidder 369 $1107.00

[68mack]

124.) 1972 Ford F-900 Pumper Fair condition Red 20276K V8 Gas Barton 750GPM American Body Perryopolis Twp VFD VIN F90LVN72129 Bidder 216 $1216.00