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St. Louis Metro
Medic 35 from the front


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Finally the new medic 13


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Nice shots Ben..have missed you posting lately!



Ill be in the new medic 2 friday and saturday night!! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_5_14.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='3_5_14' />
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Ive seen better medic units.......... <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/machinegun.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Machinegun' />
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Nice shots Ben, glad your back.



Phil, have fun Firday and Saturday
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[quote name='STLFire2494' date='24 November 2009 - 08:03 PM' timestamp='1259109780' post='348910']

Ive seen better medic units.......... <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/machinegun.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Machinegun' />

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I've never seen a good medic unit. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Stirpot' /> At least not if I have to ride it.
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Here, here brother........a bad day on a fire truck is better than a good day on an EMS unit.
Larry Di Camillo

Fire Chief

Stafford Fire Department

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Engineer/Operator

Houston Fire Department

Ladder Co. 68 "A"

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[quote name='Steve Loftin' date='27 November 2009 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1259332517' post='349413']

"Political correctness" was invented by blacks, Democrats, homosexuals, and other liberals to whitewash the truth. Why not just tell it like it is?



Firepixer Howie Smith puts it clearly: "Political Correctness (def.) - a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." AMEN, brother!



Perhaps now we can get back to the reason for this thread...the photos!

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Great reply Steve!



Now, I do not know if you are on the job or if you are a volly, but go tell your chief this.



"That Puerto Rican Firefighter could not put a fire out in a paper bag, I really do not care for him. "



"Chief, I really do not like by black captain, I am requesting a transfer"





Have you PIO department put out a release stated like this:



"FD arrived and we were able to get all the black folks out of their home safely"





Dude this had ended before you brought it back to light.



Stay safe!
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[quote name='Ben' date='24 November 2009 - 12:47 PM' timestamp='1259087267' post='348840']

These shots are all from the same fire. not a big fire but it went to 3 alarms quick with 1 injury and MULTI-stories.

Here is Pumper 28 and H&L 5, 1st due. I thought this was a cool shot.

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Ben,



I noticed the fire rigs and the ambo's have LED's. What happened to Power Arc? Are they Power Arc LED's? Thanks for the help.



Stay Safe, Rick
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Rick Mosher
Olathe, Kansas Fire Department
Engine Co. 4
Metro Kansas City, Missouri
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They apparently were not a fan of the power arcs. Im going to guess that since we run so much, that there was allot of time spent on fixing rotors and motors.
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i am pretty sure that they are code 3. not sure i will ask.
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The new medic units are ALL Code3. The lightbar is a 2700 series. They are insanely bright lit up at night! I will say though, the new rigs arent that great aside from appearance. I would say the best set of medics the STLFD has would be the Freightliners, just my opinion.



Hey Ben, did you make it to any of the fires early this morning? Sounded like they had a few decent ones, I was stuck at St Alexis. We only ran 5 calls, thats the slowest Ive had in the City. But Im back on the 2's again tonight.
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[quote name='SLCPDEXPLORER' date='28 November 2009 - 02:24 PM' timestamp='1259438693' post='349657']

The new medic units are ALL Code3. The lightbar is a 2700 series. They are insanely bright lit up at night! I will say though, the new rigs arent that great aside from appearance. I would say the best set of medics the STLFD has would be the Freightliners, just my opinion.



Hey Ben, did you make it to any of the fires early this morning? Sounded like they had a few decent ones, I was stuck at St Alexis. We only ran 5 calls, thats the slowest Ive had in the City. But Im back on the 2's again tonight.

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Thanks for the info. Stay Safe, have fun, catch a job tonight.



Rick
Member: F.O.O.L.S of OZ, IAFF L2542

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Rick Mosher
Olathe, Kansas Fire Department
Engine Co. 4
Metro Kansas City, Missouri
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I'm glad to see that StLFD went with Code 3 LEDs this time instead of Power Arc. I'm not a big fan of the Power Arc lighting, even hough there are 4 P.A. LED flashers at each corner on the sides of the box on our new ambo, though it came that way being a demo, and nothing that we would've speced. Pumper 28 looks good with the updated lighting package as well.



Here at Shrewsbury, we've discovered that LED lights don't last the 10 years as told to us, plus what I've read on the internet about them. We've already got 4 LEDs that are out in one of the front blue Code 3 flashers on our new pumper. And 2 of the Code 3 LED flashers on the front of the box of our new ambulance had to be replaced because a quarter-inch of water got into the lights somehow and shorted out several of the LEDs. The water situation is one thing, but the LEDs burning out so soon on the pumper is something we didn't expect.



All-in-all, I'll take the LEDs anyday over the now-old fashioned technology of the rotators.



On a side note to the St. Louis area buffs: Do you like the term "Hook & Ladder" or would you prefer "Truck" or "Ladder" instead? Just curious to know, as it seems St. Louis is the only major fire department to use that term. Myself, I prefer "Truck" or "Ladder." KCMOFD uses the term "Truck" for their aerial apparatus but calls their pumpers "Pumpers", as does the StLFD. I actually prefer the term "Engine." I'd also like to see StLFD refer to their Batt. Chief vehicles as "Battalion 1", "Battalion 2", etc., instead of "801", "802", "Officer1", "Officer 2", etc. 810 would be "Division Chief 1" or "Deputy 1". Sounds more big city-like to me.
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[quote name='JM82' date='29 November 2009 - 05:56 PM' timestamp='1259537789' post='350002']

I'm glad to see that StLFD went with Code 3 LEDs this time instead of Power Arc. I'm not a big fan of the Power Arc lighting, even hough there are 4 P.A. LED flashers at each corner on the sides of the box on our new ambo, though it came that way being a demo, and nothing that we would've speced. Pumper 28 looks good with the updated lighting package as well.



Here at Shrewsbury, we've discovered that LED lights don't last the 10 years as told to us, plus what I've read on the internet about them. We've already got 4 LEDs that are out in one of the front blue Code 3 flashers on our new pumper. And 2 of the Code 3 LED flashers on the front of the box of our new ambulance had to be replaced because a quarter-inch of water got into the lights somehow and shorted out several of the LEDs. The water situation is one thing, but the LEDs burning out so soon on the pumper is something we didn't expect.



All-in-all, I'll take the LEDs anyday over the now-old fashioned technology of the rotators.



On a side note to the St. Louis area buffs: Do you like the term "Hook & Ladder" or would you prefer "Truck" or "Ladder" instead? Just curious to know, as it seems St. Louis is the only major fire department to use that term. Myself, I prefer "Truck" or "Ladder." KCMOFD uses the term "Truck" for their aerial apparatus but calls their pumpers "Pumpers", as does the StLFD. I actually prefer the term "Engine." I'd also like to see StLFD refer to their Batt. Chief vehicles as "Battalion 1", "Battalion 2", etc., instead of "801", "802", "Officer1", "Officer 2", etc. 810 would be "Division Chief 1" or "Deputy 1". Sounds more big city-like to me.

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We had problems with Code Three, leaking seals on strobes and other things. We used Federal on the last rig but now are switching to Whelen. I feel they are the only way to go with LED's with a REAL Federal Q siren.



I agree Truck and Engine. Traditionally the Engine is two piece's the Pump and Hose or Wagon. The Truck would be Aerial or Ladder and Truck refered to a city service ladder company with no aerial. In Kansas it was common to see Engine or Pump and Aerial and or Truck. I could deal with Pump but Pumper just does not sound right. I do like District Chief instead of Batt its more fire service sounding instead of military. KCFD like most cities used to use District Chief.



Topeka, Kansas uses Engine 1-11 and Aerial 5's and 8's and Truck for 3,9,10,11 which look like rescues but are really modern City Service Truck Company. Wichita even used to use Aerial and Truck and then in 1972 added Aerial Platform (Tower Ladder). Today all four Trucks are Aerial Platforms or AP on the radio. They guys hate it and want Truck as the radio term.



Stay Safe, Rick
Member: F.O.O.L.S of OZ, IAFF L2542

www.kansasfiretrucks.com

Rick Mosher
Olathe, Kansas Fire Department
Engine Co. 4
Metro Kansas City, Missouri
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Stay with tradition in St. Louis. Hook & Ladder markings on the side of those trucks is distinctive and traditional. Don't follow all of the other lemmings-and for Petes's sake, go back to solid red-St. Louis is NOT Chicago and does not have to be!!! I always thought Pumper sounded cool on the radio.



J
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I agree about the black-over-red, that St. Louis should stay with traditional solid red. Too many departments in the St. Louis Metro area have gone to black-over-red as well over the past several years, which is a shame. It's OK for Chicago but that's it! That's their tradition.
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Here is some shots of the new H&L 6


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