This & That from Here & There

[e11ramfireman]

Dave, I was told that this thing cannot carry very much equipment due to the weight of a steel aerial, and the pump and tank on board already, it can only carry 2800 lbs. Of equipment/hose/tools did you hear that same figure?

I believe the NFPA minimum for loose equipment is 2500lbs, do not believe that includes water, hose, or personnel but does include air packs.  Either way I compared the weights of the 107' to a Pierce Aluminum 75' that both had the same motor, same generator, very similar axle and total gvwr ratings, and same size pump and 500 water and believe it or not the weights are pretty close, the curb weight on both of these with water but no personnel or loose equipment was 9500lbs shy of their overall gross vehicle weight rating for the 75' and 9655lbs shy for the 107'.  I think the issues w/ the 107 are right in line w/ the issues you already see w/ 75' single axle quints, you cannot put all you would like to on them because of less compartment space as well as the weight of the stuff you add adds up quickly and the buyer needs to be aware of that ahead of time or they can overweigh the rigs.....its the same problem w/ the mini-pumpers on F-550 chassis that Fire Apparatus Magazine touched on a few months back, they are too easy to overload and if you want to put all the stuff a full size pumper carries on them you will overload them.  If you want to put all the stuff a pumper and all the stuff a truck carries on one of these 107 or 75' quints, you'll overload them.  I was told the 107' aerial device and its associated components itself when designed weighs 4,000 lbs less then the 105' and is a comparable weight to the 75's Pierce produces.  If weight and compartment space will definitely be a concern for the customer on the 107' I am also told it will be available on a tandem rear axle so that will gain you some more ground.