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[quote name='firemark' timestamp='1345777884' post='496184']
And not to get away from the FDNY topic, but the Rosenbauer comments might not be too far off. My dept has recently begun the process of replacing one of our ladder trucks. We met with the regional Rosenbauer dealer and according to them, they are the #1 selling apparatus manufacturer in the world with the exception of the United States. They claim they are second here in the US only to Pierce.
[/quote] No claims it is true Rosenbauer is the largest, oldest, and highest selling in the world but they are 2nd to Pierce in sales in the US but not for much longer if Pierce keeps going the way they are going.
As for KME's build time my department just had two pumpers delieveried and from pre build to final was about 4 1/2 months. Sales for everyone is down about 20-30% so there is plenty of space on the line for everyone.
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If only someone could convince Mack to update the CF and get back in the business. I know it was 1% (or less) of their overall business, but I think they could dominate the current market.
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[quote name='edburke' timestamp='1345831282' post='496200']
If only someone could convince Mack to update the CF and get back in the business. I know it was 1% (or less) of their overall business, but I think they could dominate the current market.
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Those Volvo Fire Trucks in Sweden are very nice, they could slap a bulldog on and go to town!
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[quote name='edburke' timestamp='1345831282' post='496200']
If only someone could convince Mack to update the CF and get back in the business. I know it was 1% (or less) of their overall business, but I think they could dominate the current market.
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You are right, if they can reproduce the Maxidyne as it was.
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[quote name='edburke' timestamp='1345831282' post='496200']
If only someone could convince Mack to update the CF and get back in the business. I know it was 1% (or less) of their overall business, but I think they could dominate the current market.
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Oh boy, wouldn't that be awesome!!
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I think mack was smart enough to get out of the fire biz and is smart enough to stay away.. Havi.g said that, my dept has a few left and i love them ...
I spoke with our local KME rep today and apparently the FDNY is dealing "factory direct". No local dealers involved, at least when it comes to Kmart. He also stated that an agreement has definitely NOT been met but talks are still ongoing.
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Anything new to report on this?
Reports on other message boards are saying that as of today, the bid has officially been awarded to KME...don't shoot the messenger - just stating what I saw and I have no inside information.
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it is now official. I give them 5 years...
I am not sure I understand the logic of ordering such a large amount of apparatus without first using a prototype.
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[quote name='rpbravest29fd' timestamp='1351025268' post='501358']
I am not sure I understand the logic of ordering such a large amount of apparatus without first using a prototype.
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I agree but LA CITY. LA County, Atlanta, Boston, Ottawa, Ontario Capital of Canada can they all be wrong.
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[quote name='Reliance' timestamp='1351030279' post='501365']
I agree but LA CITY. LA County, Atlanta, Boston, Ottawa, Ontario Capital of Canada can they all be wrong.
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Yes
I dont think you can compare the snow and salt streets of NYC to California, or GA. And I dont think boston has had them long enough to know.
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Yes. But philly has... and ive asked twice before about how thats not a legitimate comparison and I got nothing but crickets....
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[quote name='BFD190' timestamp='1351097966' post='501437']
Yes. But philly has... and ive asked twice before about how thats not a legitimate comparison and I got nothing but crickets....
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Also Ottawa has a fair amount of snow & salt
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[quote name='rpbravest29fd' timestamp='1351018354' post='501354']
Reports on other message boards are saying that as of today, the bid has officially been awarded to KME...don't shoot the messenger - just stating what I saw and I have no inside information.
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Just curious what was the other site? Always looking for something new to check out! Thanks!
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[quote name='Reliance' timestamp='1351102023' post='501441']
Also Ottawa has a fair amount of snow & salt
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I know Ottawa has placed an order but do they have KME rigs inservice. Philly is the only city that mat be close to wear and tear to FDNY.
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[quote name='ACPD227' timestamp='1351266288' post='501617']
I know Ottawa has placed an order but do they have KME rigs inservice. Philly is the only city that mat be close to wear and tear to FDNY.
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Not that I know of. Most of there's are E\-One, Carl Tibault, Fort Garry
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[quote name='Reliance' timestamp='1351276587' post='501652']
Not that I know of. Most of there's are E\-One, Carl Tibault, Fort Garry
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Majority of engine are HME/fort garry mid 2000, the newest are spartan metrostar Carl Thibault. Aerial are mid 2000 E\-One and the newest are spartan gladiator rk Carl thibault
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