West Virginia - Need help

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MFD replaced a fleet of old engines with this fleet of Mack CFs, starting with this 1970 1000/500.

Unknown, Jenkins collection

[Guest]

When Martinsburg started replacing with new Pierces in 1997, the 70 Mack found a new home in Berkeley Springs,WV.

Warren Jenkins photo

[Guest]

E-3 had this 1974 1000/500 model until 2001, when it was sold to the Orleans,MD. VFC in Allegany County. It had been rebodied by Pierce in 1993.

Unknown, Jenkins collection

[Guest]

E-5 also had a 1975 1000/500 model, also rebodied by Pierce in 1993-94. I am uncertain that this remains on the MFD roster, since Martinsburg now has 3 Pierce engines and a Pierce heavy rescue.

Unknown, Jenkins collection

[yvfdco8]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='189659' date='Feb 17 2008, 11:31 ']E-5 also had a 1975 1000/500 model, also rebodied by Pierce in 1993-94. I am uncertain that this remains on the MFD roster, since Martinsburg now has 3 Pierce engines and a Pierce heavy rescue.

Unknown, Jenkins collection[/quote]



I stopped by there in 2005 and there was an older Mack in the bay, just can't remember which one or if it is still there.

[Shoe]

[quote name='mnsand' post='189582' date='Feb 16 2008, 22:02 ']Final West Virginia post for now is Wheeling, West Virginia's Engine 9, a 1963 Pirsch 1000 gpm.





Photographed in 1975





Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA[/quote]





I LOVE the shot of E-9 in it's red color scheme. I have some distant shots of her in white and orange. I'll try to get them posted. She ran for many years as E-9 in Warwood and then went into reserve.



McMechen is just south of Wheeling on the river and is in Marshall County. They have adopted the orange and white color scheme as well, but I can't remember for sure if the Sutphen had ever been painted. I think it was.



Rear windshields were very common at the time in that area. On cold nights, you could pull the hose bed cover up over the windshield and get in out of the wind and rain. We used to put our gear on while riding on the back step while someone held you on... I won't even begin to tell you about the shenanigans that went on up on the back step on the way to and from parades!!!



Bethlehem is on the hill just to the East of Wheeling. They are a small volunteer department in Ohio County and are dispatched by Wheeling.

[GA_Dave]

QUOTE (FDNYTRUCKS.com @ Jul 11 2007, 21:34 ) *

how many 77 Pioneer's did Buffalo, NY have? I have 5444 as Buffalo, so maybe this one is too. I'm sure somebody out there knows!!!



1977 PC-17-5444 Buffalo, New York NY E23(poss. a 50' TSQ) 1250/500 American La France Pioneer III





Mike,



Buffalo only had 2 1977 Pioneers. The pumper assigned to E 23 did not have a telesqurt, and a rearmount 100' ladder was assigned to L 9. The only Pioneers with a telesqurt (35') were assigned to E 18 and E 37. They were from the first order of 9 pumps and 4 ladders. Shortly after delivery of the Pioneers, E 36's Mack CF and E-1's Pioneer were switched. The original order of Pioneers went to Engines 1, 18, 22, 25, 26, 31, 35, 37, and 38. The 4 ladders were assigned to Ladders 4, 7, 10, and 12.



Ron

I seriously doubt that this rig served Buffalo. All photos of Buffalo Pioneer pumpers that I have ever seen have the older style pump panel, this one has the fancier stainless one, like the Century's had. Also, most of the Buffalo Pioneers ended up with R.D. Murray front fenders, which this rig doesn't have.

[GA_Dave]

McMechen is just south of Wheeling on the river and is in Marshall County. They have adopted the orange and white color scheme as well, but I can't remember for sure if the Sutphen had ever been painted. I think it was.

It was repainted white/orange. If the old Sutphen thread is still alive, I posted a shot of it there.

[mnsand]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='189654' date='Feb 17 2008, 10:54 ']Very impressive, Mike!

Here is some rig info, from the history pages at www.morgantownfirefighters.org; 1944 ALF 500 SERIES 750 GPM, 1947 ALF 700 SERIES 750 GPM, 1955 Seagrave 100' TDA, 1956 FWD 1000GPM (a Mack B was also bought in 56).

Did you know the Baker Heights ALF sat for years just southeast of the intersection of RTs. 340 & 522 in White Post,VA.? It was removed about 7-8 years ago, and was adjacent to the prison property <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />

Also the Swab rescue at Charles Town's Citizen's FC is on a 1970 GMC ( front end style used 1969-72). Independent FC bought a similar Swab rescue in 1972 on a Dodge chassis - it was rechassied in mid-80's and served until 1990.

The origins of Baker Heights and South Berk rigs was explained to me long ago, I gotta take a memory pill...[/quote]





Thank you Warren....great information. I have a slide of Morgantown's Mack B and will get that posted at some point.



I do recall seeing that ALF at White Post - did not realize it was from Baker Heights.





Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA

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WV, especially the southwestern and southeastern portions of the state, are chock full of gems. It's an area that is very virgin and rarely photographed. I might hit the Nitro/St. Albans area later this year.

[gpwhitworth]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='189655' date='Feb 17 2008, 11:05 ']Here's some old Martinsburg rigs, scanned from old slides.

195? Duplex?/Oren ?/?

Hose Co. 3, closed around 1989.

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Chassis is a Corbitt

[yvfdco8]

[quote name='mnsand' post='189580' date='Feb 16 2008, 21:56 ']I am assuming that South Berkeley purchased this FWD used?



Anyone have information where this FWD once served?





1956 FWD

750gpm



Photographed in 1981





Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA[/quote]





Mike, I think this was their first engine. One of the guys that works with me runs there and I remember him talking about it...makes sense, it is a 56 and they were established in 56. From what I have heard they are trying to restore it.

[e290l103]

1970 CF611F10-1230 Martinsburg, West Virginia WV E1 1000/500 1970 Mack CF/1992 Pierce Sold:Berkeley Springs, WV Pierce s/n F2828





1974 CF685F10-1677 Martinsburg, West Virginia WV E3 1000/500 1974 Mack CF/1994 Pierce Rehab Sold:Orleans, MD Pierce s/n F-3119



1974 CF685F10-1678 Martinsburg, West Virginia WV E5 1000/500 1974 Mack CF/1992 Pierce Rehab

Pierce s/n F2829



this is what I have on them.



Mike

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Nitro city is having serious financial trouble. Something to the tune of a million plus dollars in debt. The talk was to put the fire depts trucks up for collateral in attempt to pay down its bills.



For the record my vfd bought the mini pumper that Buckhannon replaced with R 11, which is an Allegheny, one of the last trucks they built before going under.



The mini is a ALF chevy chassis

[Guest]

<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='^_^' /> Thanks to Mike Martinelli and George from Greensboro for the info/corrections on Martinsburg. I'll post the CF that went to Orleans,MD., and some other WV oldies as I get time.

Warren Jenkins

[Shoe]

Not great shots but, here is Wheeling's Engine 9 in her orange/white color scheme.

[Shoe]

From the rear. This was taken at a call on Warwood Ave.

[Shoe]

Engine 9 on a river call. The Wheeling Civic Center can be seen in the background. The Civic Center is now known as Wesbanco Arena.

[Shoe]

Station 9 with Wheeling's two early 50's model Macks. Both in reserve at the time this was taken. Engine 12 on the left and Engine 3 on the right.

[mnsand]

[quote name='mnsand' post='189751' date='Feb 17 2008, 16:58 ']Thank you Warren....great information. I have a slide of Morgantown's Mack B and will get that posted at some point.



I do recall seeing that ALF at White Post - did not realize it was from Baker Heights.





Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA[/quote]





Warren,



Here is Morgantown's Engine 8, a 1956 Mack B 750gpm as photographed in 1969.





McLean, Virginia in Fairfax County ran this tough looking 1979 GMC Brigadier/Saulsbury as their Squad 1. It also had a 250/200.



From McLean it was sold to The Plains, Virginia in Fauquier County. I was told by someone from The Plains that they sold it to some company that did work with railroads. The GMC squad was extensively modified and had the capability to drive on the rails. Sure would have loved to have seen that truck.





Mike Sanders collection



Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA