OK OK OK OK OK...apparently I was mistaken, but either way.....hopefully we can stay with all stainless apparatus, and hopefully we NEVER make the mistake again of getting raised roofs
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And just what is wrong with a raised roof??? <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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They are just but ugly.
I'm assuming that you meant "butt" ugly, but that's a matter of opinion, and you are entitled to have yours. On our apparatus, they serve a useful function. I wouldn't spec a rig without one. I was actually interested in why Satans Child felt that they were a mistake.
[quote name='GA_Dave' date='10 January 2010 - 09:46 AM' timestamp='1263133592' post='357475']
I'm assuming that you meant "butt" ugly, but that's a matter of opinion, and you are entitled to have yours. On our apparatus, they serve a useful function. I wouldn't spec a rig without one. I was actually interested in why Satans Child felt that they were a mistake. [/quote] I am sorry I did mean butt ugly. Please forgive me I can't spell or do math because I am just a dumb wagon driver. And maybe they dont like them because they dont have a long handle wash brush to reach the top of the cab.
[quote name='GA_Dave' date='10 January 2010 - 09:46 AM' timestamp='1263133592' post='357475']
I'm assuming that you meant "butt" ugly, but that's a matter of opinion, and you are entitled to have yours. On our apparatus, they serve a useful function. I wouldn't spec a rig without one. I was actually interested in why Satans Child felt that they were a mistake. [/quote] I do not like them on apparatus because I see no advantage, they cost more money, they can raise the overall height considerably (the old E\-One's that DC had), and on trucks they cut down on the scrub area of the ladder. And we don't have brushes long enough to reach em either <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' /> Now I am interested to hear why you like them Quote:I am sorry I did mean butt ugly. Please forgive me I can't spell or do math because I am just a dumb wagon driver. And maybe they dont like them because they dont have a long handle wash brush to reach the top of the cab. No forgiveness necessary, I was just making sure I understood you. Wagon drivers are not dumb, just often misunderstood. I know, I've been one for over 18 years, although we call ours "engines". You may be right on the long handled brushes! Quote:I do not like them on apparatus because I see no advantage, they cost more money, they can raise the overall height considerably (the old E-ONE's that DC had), and on trucks they cut down on the scrub area of the ladder. And we don't have brushes long enough to reach em either Headroom. We have 10" raised roofs with taller doors so you don't need to duck to exit the cab. We run ALS engines. All of the EMS gear is carried in a center cabinet inside the cab, against the rear wall. There is additional storage above it, all the way to the ceiling. Access to the cabinet is much easier when you don't have to stoop as much. The raised roof doesn't change the height of the apparatus. It is no higher than the AC units in front of it, nor the ground ladders on the overhead rack behind it. Our Truck is a rearmount with high compartments, so the scrub area isn't changed by the higher cab, the aerial would contact the compartments first, but the computer won't allow that to happen anyway. When we use it, it is for a water tower 99% of the time and we are generally elevated at much higher angles than those that could cause an issue. Finally, we do have long handled brushes! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' /> I guess the point I am trying to make is that different FD's are just that, different. Flat top cabs may be the best thing for your FD, but not for ours. 
[quote name='Good2Go' date='09 January 2010 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1263088155' post='357403']
Velocity, Impel, Quantum = ugh. [/quote] The Quantum looks much better with the dual headlights and chrome band across the front.
Paul Edwards
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[quote name='GA_Dave' date='10 January 2010 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1263143390' post='357522']
No forgiveness necessary, I was just making sure I understood you. Wagon drivers are not dumb, just often misunderstood. I know, I've been one for over 18 years, although we call ours "engines". You may be right on the long handled brushes! Headroom. We have 10" raised roofs with taller doors so you don't need to duck to exit the cab. We run ALS engines. All of the EMS gear is carried in a center cabinet inside the cab, against the rear wall. There is additional storage above it, all the way to the ceiling. Access to the cabinet is much easier when you don't have to stoop as much. The raised roof doesn't change the height of the apparatus. It is no higher than the AC units in front of it, nor the ground ladders on the overhead rack behind it. Our Truck is a rearmount with high compartments, so the scrub area isn't changed by the higher cab, the aerial would contact the compartments first, but the computer won't allow that to happen anyway. When we use it, it is for a water tower 99% of the time and we are generally elevated at much higher angles than those that could cause an issue. Finally, we do have long handled brushes! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> I guess the point I am trying to make is that different FD's are just that, different. Flat top cabs may be the best thing for your FD, but not for ours. [/quote] We carry our ems equiptment in side compartments (als and bls) and we have short cab apparatus, so having a compartment wouldn't work very well here (in my book, short wheelbase trumps most other things) We don't have overhead ladder racks either. And almost all our trucks are mid-mount (tractor drawn and tower) so a raised roof would GREATLY hamper our ladder placement. It's good to hear how different places operate and how different things can be.....while essentially being the same. And they STILL won't give us long handled brushes!
[quote name='crashresq21' date='05 January 2010 - 05:23 PM' timestamp='1262729021' post='356615']
Hey maybe Cosgrove can shed some light on this, or it just a "jump ball" post. When does DCFD usually have the auction for surplus trucks?. I have a few lower run departments locally hurting for newer rigs and figured what the hell, doesnt hurt to ask. [/quote] There is no set time. Check this site for DC surplus: http://www.liquidation.com/
[quote name='poindexter6' date='07 January 2010 - 08:42 AM' timestamp='1262870568' post='356951']
Who drives the Red Crown Vic with Stripes and Decals? I saw him clearing the incident on Rock Creek @ Pennsylvania this morning. Thanks! [/quote] We have a few dozen of those. Try again?
[quote name='ResQguy' date='14 January 2010 - 09:08 PM' timestamp='1263520086' post='358569']
We have a few dozen of those. Try again? [/quote] it was Lt. Egan.....Car 10 I believe
[quote name='Satans Child' date='14 January 2010 - 09:32 PM' timestamp='1263521543' post='358576']
it was Lt. Egan.....Car 10 I believe [/quote] He does indeed have a red crown vic with stripes and decals, but then again so do I.... But he definitely gets around the city more then I do.
[quote name='ResQguy' date='14 January 2010 - 09:36 PM' timestamp='1263521764' post='358580']
He does indeed have a red crown vic with stripes and decals, but then again so do I.... But he definitely gets around the city more then I do. [/quote] it was him....the part I wasn't sure about is the "Car 10" title <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
Yep. Car-10 is correct.
[quote name='ResQguy' date='15 January 2010 - 08:58 PM' timestamp='1263605923' post='358819']
Yep. Car-10 is correct. [/quote] Did it have a Booster seat and blocks on the pedals <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' /> Cosgr <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> ve
[color="#ff0000"][size="4"]Get In, Sit Down, Hold On and Shut Up[/size][/color]
[quote name='tcosgrovejones' date='15 January 2010 - 09:03 PM' timestamp='1263606188' post='358820']
Did it have a Booster seat and blocks on the pedals <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> Cosgr <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> ve[/quote] Better a booster seat in the front than an Expedition in the bed, I always say <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
[quote name='ResQguy' date='16 January 2010 - 10:46 AM' timestamp='1263655605' post='358888']
Better a booster seat in the front than an Expedition in the bed, I always say <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />[/quote] Get your Facts straight... Not in the Bed but ratehr on the Gate <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> I can laugh about it <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/BananaMan.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' /> Cosgr <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' /> ve
[color="#ff0000"][size="4"]Get In, Sit Down, Hold On and Shut Up[/size][/color]
 What are the odds? Chief Billy Goldfeder (Firefighterclosecalls.com, Secret List, etc.) was in Washington, DC, recently for a formal affair at the NTSB. While enroute to visit his son, a fireman in nearby Maryland, he called in a room-and-contents at 3rd and Rhode Island Ave. NE. Dec. 2009
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