DCFD Photos, old or new

[Dickey]

Are the Ground Zero pins that were being referred to that Chief Billy was wearing, are those totally exclusive to FDNY, custom made and only available from FDNY?



Would it be possible that pin is made by a company that sells it to anyone, including the FDNY??







Just an honest question....I don't know the background or even a pin existed.

[Guest]

Kurt,



That is old Truck 7's 2000 Seagrave. You can see where the decal was on the first trailer compartment.

[SLIPPERYSAM]

[quote name='Shoop' date='24 February 2010 - 09:33 AM' timestamp='1267020802' post='366068']

Kurt,



That is old Truck 7's 2000 Seagrave. You can see where the decal was on the first trailer compartment.

[/quote]

What are you look at? I can't make it out.

[Guest]

Sorry, wrong compartment door. Look at the roll up door. Where Truck 7's decal was, it is lighter than the rest of the compartment. They were the only one with that size of decal on that compartment. They had the same decal one each side.

[Guest]

While I was at it, I decided to scan a few classics in as well.

[Guest]

Thanks Shoop! And I love the old slide classics! Had no idea 15 Engine had a '57 Mack like that.

[tcosgrovejones]

[quote name='Photoguy Kurt 07' date='25 February 2010 - 12:29 AM' timestamp='1267074562' post='366236']

Thanks Shoop! And I love the old slide classics! Had no idea 15 Engine had a '57 Mack like that.

[/quote]

I spent 16 years at 15 Engine and the only Mack Picture that we had on the wall was the A Model E-15 had. I'm gonna have to research this some.

Thanks for the Pic.

Cosgr <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> ve

[e290l103]

I dont remember who sent me the roster, but here is the info on the B model for E15. one of 6 delivered. I remember someone telling me that one of these later went to the Metro so they could have a dedicated pump to test the standpipes in the system. if I remember right there was a pic of it in a yard posted here a long time ago. I also remember that my memory is not what it once was!



10. Six (6) 1957 Mack B-85F open cab 750 gpm/200 gwt, front suction, shop installed metal roofs, open running boards with exposed rear fenders, Shop numbers 291 thru 297



291/B85F-1231 Engine 14P 294/B85F-1228 Engine 15P

292/B85F-1232 Engine 32P 295/B85F-1229

293/B85F-1227 Engine 25P 296/B85F-1230 Engine 29P

[MFD76]

[quote name='Shoop' date='24 February 2010 - 11:38 AM' timestamp='1267031936' post='366085']

While I was at it, I decided to scan a few classics in as well.













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How or Why did they spec a Sutphen-Pirsh? Why not a Pirsh with a Cinci-Cab. I know this rig was one of a kind.



Thanks in Advance,

Rick

[dcfireman]

   

[quote name='tcosgrovejones' date='25 February 2010 - 06:19 AM' timestamp='1267095579' post='366247']

I spent 16 years at 15 Engine and the only Mack Picture that we had on the wall was the A Model E-15 had. I'm gonna have to research this some.

Thanks for the Pic.

Cosgr <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> ve

[/quote]

Here you go Cos - she was a target of opportunity one day down on the Mall around 1977-80.

[jma02]

I am guessing it was an old tiller with a new tractor put under it not spec that way as a new piece.......



[quote name='MFD 61 KS' date='25 February 2010 - 08:20 PM' timestamp='1267146045' post='366344']

How or Why did they spec a Sutphen-Pirsh? Why not a Pirsh with a Cinci-Cab. I know this rig was one of a kind.



Thanks in Advance,

Rick

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[Guest]

[quote name='Shoop' date='24 February 2010 - 12:38 PM' timestamp='1267031936' post='366085']

While I was at it, I decided to scan a few classics in as well.













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Hi Shoop,

These are all great photos. One question, did the DCFD shops ever paint a white stripe along the middle of this 1957 Mack pumper, as they did with the other apparatus of that era? Was this the only Mack "B" in service with DCFD?

Thanks,

Bob

[tcosgrovejones]

[quote name='dcfireman' date='25 February 2010 - 09:32 PM' timestamp='1267150334' post='366351']





Here you go Cos - she was a target of opportunity one day down on the Mall around 1977-80.

[/quote]

Thanks Kevein.As for Snyder saying the Shop installed the Metal Roof.. NOT.Also Snyder mentions the Mack at Metro. It wasn't a DC MAck. It had a Hemi in it. If I recall the story correctly these B Models came in with Air Brakes and they were Speced with Juice Brakes. So in our Shops wisdom they made Mack retrofit juice Brakes and never looked at Mack again for Apparatus.

I did have the pleasure of driving one as E-12's pumper one day and I felt right at home in it due to my Rockville training <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/BananaMan.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



Cosgr <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> ve



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[Truckman]

[quote name='tcosgrovejones' date='26 February 2010 - 06:51 AM' timestamp='1267183886' post='366390']

Thanks Kevein.As for Snyder saying the Shop installed the Metal Roof.. NOT.Also Snyder mentions the Mack at Metro. It wasn't a DC MAck. It had a Hemi in it. If I recall the story correctly these B Models came in with Air Brakes and they were Speced with Juice Brakes. So in our Shops wisdom they made Mack retrofit juice Brakes and never looked at Mack again for Apparatus.



Cos, that as dumb as they could ever been, going from air to juice. Plus not entaintering Mack again on bids. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/machinegun.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[davemcclung]

[quote name='Truckman' date='26 February 2010 - 01:40 PM' timestamp='1267212059' post='366472']

[quote name='tcosgrovejones' date='26 February 2010 - 06:51 AM' timestamp='1267183886' post='366390']

Thanks Kevein.As for Snyder saying the Shop installed the Metal Roof.. NOT.Also Snyder mentions the Mack at Metro. It wasn't a DC MAck. It had a Hemi in it. If I recall the story correctly these B Models came in with Air Brakes and they were Speced with Juice Brakes. So in our Shops wisdom they made Mack retrofit juice Brakes and never looked at Mack again for Apparatus.



Cos, that as dumb as they could ever been, going from air to juice. Plus not entaintering Mack again on bids. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/machinegun.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banghead.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

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Question for the DC guys. Do the Pierce and Seagrave pumpers purchased in the past all come from a standard pumper spec? If so what is the wheel base and overall length of the rig? Thanks in advance....



I never shot much in DC except for the special rigs even though I lived in NOVA for 14 years, worked downtown all that time and spend about two months a year in town. I should remedy that.

[chief60]

Is this what you are looking for? The is from DCFD Seagrave spec.





Within these categories the following specific items shall be included:



Wheelbase shall be 163".



Overall height not to exceed 112"



Overall length not to exceed 340"



The top of the hose body shall be as low as possible, but shall not exceed 66" from the top of the rear step.



Entire cab shall tilt.



Seating capacity shall be provided for six (6) personnel (including driver).



Rear axle gearing shall allow a top speed of approximately 65 miles an hour.



GVW rating shall be a minimum of 44,000 lbs.

[smketrfdny]

[quote name='jma02' date='25 February 2010 - 10:15 PM' timestamp='1267152930' post='366357']

I am guessing it was an old tiller with a new tractor put under it not spec that way as a new piece.......

[/quote]



I was told by oldtimers this was one of 3 made. Whether rejected due to spec or $$ issues, DCFD picked up the Sutphen/Pirsch. While not seen in these pics, the DCFD shops added an extra seat on the Chauffeur side of the rig when DCFD ran 5 men and an officer.



Was a unique piece, no doubt.



Cosgrove or Kevin, any idea where she went after disposal?



Stay safe, Brothers.

[Guest]

Rescue Squad 1 was involved in a vehicle accident at 14th and Constitution this morning. 3 priority patients were sent to the hospital, no firefighters were injured.



http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-...60377.html

[Guest]

poindexter,



Thanks for posting. I got a text on the crash this morning, and have been waiting to see the damage.

[Guest]

Engine 1 is back in their frontline unit... finally!



Also, their station is pretty packed. The new T2 is in the station as well (not sure which one being used right now though). Ambo 1 is parked outside, New Truck 2 is in it's spot and TAU is all the way against the back wall between both T2s.



They got a call for TAU today, so I guess they had to get 2 drivers plus 2 tiller drivers to move the trucks just to get the TAU out (assuming everybody was in the station).