[quote name='phyrngn' timestamp='1295748049' post='421650']
Our department has pre-piped waterways, and this (in my opinion) limits the use of the aerial when it is needed for roof operations. Thus, we've developed the waterpipe mindset and go defensive a lot sooner than we probably need to. If you ever watch LAFD, they have an orderly withdrawal from the roof, and then they set up their ladder pipe ops. FDNY uses Tower Ladders for their defensive ops, and I feel this is a good practice.
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It is interesting how you contrasted the LAFD to the FDNY Fire Departments and it seems that it would be more time consuming for the LAFD to go into defensive mode then New York or for that matter Chicago or Houston as being that the LAFD doesn't run with any Aerial Platform apparatus (which are all prepiped). They would have to bring down their Aerial Ladders (after they get the people off the roof first) so they could attach their Ladder Pipes and then set up the Aerial Ladder again for defensive ops. In New York and Chicago all they need to do is get the guys off the roof and Tower Ladders are already to go into action as they are already set up for service. Even in Houston (as all of their Aerial Ladders are prepiped, in addition to their 5 Tower Ladders) they don't need to put down their Aerial Ladders first to attach the Aerial Pipes only to get started again.
Our department has pre-piped waterways, and this (in my opinion) limits the use of the aerial when it is needed for roof operations. Thus, we've developed the waterpipe mindset and go defensive a lot sooner than we probably need to. If you ever watch LAFD, they have an orderly withdrawal from the roof, and then they set up their ladder pipe ops. FDNY uses Tower Ladders for their defensive ops, and I feel this is a good practice.
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It is interesting how you contrasted the LAFD to the FDNY Fire Departments and it seems that it would be more time consuming for the LAFD to go into defensive mode then New York or for that matter Chicago or Houston as being that the LAFD doesn't run with any Aerial Platform apparatus (which are all prepiped). They would have to bring down their Aerial Ladders (after they get the people off the roof first) so they could attach their Ladder Pipes and then set up the Aerial Ladder again for defensive ops. In New York and Chicago all they need to do is get the guys off the roof and Tower Ladders are already to go into action as they are already set up for service. Even in Houston (as all of their Aerial Ladders are prepiped, in addition to their 5 Tower Ladders) they don't need to put down their Aerial Ladders first to attach the Aerial Pipes only to get started again.
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