[quote name='MatttheEPFDBuff' post='41966' date='Oct 9 2006, 12:35 ']TL5 was a ALF Demo at FDIC and did have a pump on the truck. The pump was removed when CFD made the emergency purchase of the rig.
It is true that all engines must have a Engineer assigned who runs the pump and tank and there were discussions in the past about this when the City bought the Seagraves and Wards with booster equipment that resulted in Engineers added to the companies due to this.
Regardless, when you look at the fleet today, CFD does not have any towers or rearmounts that have pumps or tanks and the rigs are operated as straight truck companies so this truck having a pump did not meet the specs for towers or ladders and the pump was removed. However, I do understand that the truck now rides rough because it was designed for the weight of the pump and it is no longer there.[/quote]
Yes that was true for our Original Snorkel Squads as well which originally ran with both a "Snorkel Squad' apparatus and a Fog Pressure pumper (with a 300 gallon water tank and 2 High Pressure Fog booster lines) as their second piece and therefore ran with 7 man crews as the driver of the Fog Pressure had to be an Engineer.
Snorkel Squad 1 went in service in 1962 while Snorkel Squad 2 went in service in 1963 and Snorkel Squad 3 went in service in 1965 (using the Original GMC/Pittman 50 ft.1958 model Snorkel.
In early 1969 Snorkel Squads 2 and 3 were taken out of service in order to save the city money in a manpower reallignment.Snorkel Squad 1 remained in service until 1980 but had it's Fog Pressure apparatus replaced in the mid 70's with Ford/Pierce medium duty rescue squad as it's second piece.
Today's 3 Squad "Snorkel" company's didn't go into service until September of 1983 when the Fire Department consolidated 3 of our conventional Snorkel Company's and 3 of our conventional Squad company's into combined Squad "Snorkel"companies as an "efficiency move" to also save money, as the Squad and Snorkel company's weren't that busy at the time.
It is true that all engines must have a Engineer assigned who runs the pump and tank and there were discussions in the past about this when the City bought the Seagraves and Wards with booster equipment that resulted in Engineers added to the companies due to this.
Regardless, when you look at the fleet today, CFD does not have any towers or rearmounts that have pumps or tanks and the rigs are operated as straight truck companies so this truck having a pump did not meet the specs for towers or ladders and the pump was removed. However, I do understand that the truck now rides rough because it was designed for the weight of the pump and it is no longer there.[/quote]
Yes that was true for our Original Snorkel Squads as well which originally ran with both a "Snorkel Squad' apparatus and a Fog Pressure pumper (with a 300 gallon water tank and 2 High Pressure Fog booster lines) as their second piece and therefore ran with 7 man crews as the driver of the Fog Pressure had to be an Engineer.
Snorkel Squad 1 went in service in 1962 while Snorkel Squad 2 went in service in 1963 and Snorkel Squad 3 went in service in 1965 (using the Original GMC/Pittman 50 ft.1958 model Snorkel.
In early 1969 Snorkel Squads 2 and 3 were taken out of service in order to save the city money in a manpower reallignment.Snorkel Squad 1 remained in service until 1980 but had it's Fog Pressure apparatus replaced in the mid 70's with Ford/Pierce medium duty rescue squad as it's second piece.
Today's 3 Squad "Snorkel" company's didn't go into service until September of 1983 when the Fire Department consolidated 3 of our conventional Snorkel Company's and 3 of our conventional Squad company's into combined Squad "Snorkel"companies as an "efficiency move" to also save money, as the Squad and Snorkel company's weren't that busy at the time.
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