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FDNY New pumpers.........
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Seagrave has been on the downslide for years, with or without FDNY. However, their relationship with FDNY has hurt business in the end, because now that business is gone, the "little guys" that were pushed to the side have moved on to other, more attentive manufacturers. Pricing and quality continue to be issues, as well. Yes, they are built like tanks, but Seagrave continues to struggle with innovation. Plus, in the age of grants, Seagrave simply cannot build a custom unit in less than 12 months, although "small" companies like Custom Fire and Summit have no problem doing so. I heard at FDIC that Seagrave built "less than 100" units last year, "50-something," and a more exact number of 42. So, its safe to assume that one of the greatest names in fire apparatus history is building fewer apparatus per year than companies like Toyne and 4 Guys. Sad.



When I toured Pierce a few years ago with a VP, I was told they had no interest whatsoever in FDNY's business, for all of the obvious reasons and those mentioned above. We'll see the toll it takes on Ferrara and KME.



Kent Parrish
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FDNY New pumpers......... - by 1958 F.W.D. - 02-27-2012, 10:44 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by hp1530 - 02-28-2012, 01:25 AM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Dickey - 02-28-2012, 02:06 AM
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FDNY New pumpers......... - by Roto-Ray - 02-28-2012, 01:19 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Guest - 02-28-2012, 10:33 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by ff168577 - 02-28-2012, 11:12 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by hp1530 - 02-28-2012, 11:43 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Dickey - 02-29-2012, 12:47 AM
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FDNY New pumpers......... - by ACPD227 - 02-29-2012, 05:59 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Guest - 02-29-2012, 08:16 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by johndanger - 02-29-2012, 09:47 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by KDWMAEMT - 02-29-2012, 09:48 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Guest - 02-29-2012, 11:26 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Guest - 03-01-2012, 10:55 AM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by ACPD227 - 03-01-2012, 07:53 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by GA_Dave - 03-01-2012, 11:17 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by ffemtwakeman - 03-01-2012, 11:57 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by GA_Dave - 03-02-2012, 01:27 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Guest - 03-03-2012, 03:42 AM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by 1958 F.W.D. - 03-03-2012, 12:29 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by bfdjunior01 - 03-03-2012, 08:29 PM
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FDNY New pumpers......... - by B95MACKFIRE - 03-04-2012, 01:15 AM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Marc - 03-04-2012, 01:25 AM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by GA_Dave - 03-04-2012, 09:26 AM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Guest - 03-04-2012, 11:36 AM
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FDNY New pumpers......... - by Reliance - 03-09-2012, 04:14 PM
FDNY New pumpers......... - by Juice - 03-09-2012, 05:24 PM
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