Rosenbauer's got a substantial backer/parent with deep pockets in Europe. They aren't going anywhere. Globally the Rosenbauer group easily sells more apparatus than any other. They were even building rolling ARFF chassis without bodies for export overseas in Minnesota, not sure if they still are but it was neat to see stuff going the opposite direction for once.
I would suspect the Minnesota division's business is close to 300 a year by now. I might be estimating high, but many of their dealers are finding customers that love the high end style of build and customization that the Minnesota folks will do. Even the stuff coming out of South Dakota is much better looking than it was at one time. If you specify correctly, you can do a very reasonable, well built stainless rig out of the old Central plant unless they discontinued that line. There were rigs out of that plant that I wasn't particularly thrilled with, but I was also selling a custom engine for ridiculously low money to customers that had horrifyingly small budgets. They'll never wear out a 1/8" aluminum body with their call volume. I have been away from sales for a while now, and away from Rosenbauer even longer so my insights may be very wrong.
Remember, Spartan as a whole is losing money. In a bad way. Of the bigger builders, they'd be the next to be in trouble if I were a betting man. At some point shareholders are going to get angry.
KME seems to be doing very well luring in the big contracts for large orders of rigs. Remember Rosenbauer was doing a huge volume just for the Saudis, they at one time had a separate building just for assembly of these export rigs in SD. Pierce seems to get a fair amount of export work as well.
I know very little about Pierce aside from repeated gripes about diminishing quality, even coming from dedicated Pierce customers. I'd seriously consider them for our next rig, but they're insanely high in this area against the competition. I know in other areas their dealers try to more competitive, but not here.
I would suspect the Minnesota division's business is close to 300 a year by now. I might be estimating high, but many of their dealers are finding customers that love the high end style of build and customization that the Minnesota folks will do. Even the stuff coming out of South Dakota is much better looking than it was at one time. If you specify correctly, you can do a very reasonable, well built stainless rig out of the old Central plant unless they discontinued that line. There were rigs out of that plant that I wasn't particularly thrilled with, but I was also selling a custom engine for ridiculously low money to customers that had horrifyingly small budgets. They'll never wear out a 1/8" aluminum body with their call volume. I have been away from sales for a while now, and away from Rosenbauer even longer so my insights may be very wrong.
Remember, Spartan as a whole is losing money. In a bad way. Of the bigger builders, they'd be the next to be in trouble if I were a betting man. At some point shareholders are going to get angry.
KME seems to be doing very well luring in the big contracts for large orders of rigs. Remember Rosenbauer was doing a huge volume just for the Saudis, they at one time had a separate building just for assembly of these export rigs in SD. Pierce seems to get a fair amount of export work as well.
I know very little about Pierce aside from repeated gripes about diminishing quality, even coming from dedicated Pierce customers. I'd seriously consider them for our next rig, but they're insanely high in this area against the competition. I know in other areas their dealers try to more competitive, but not here.
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