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[quote name='Ladder 68' timestamp='1299426633' post='428337']

And wasn't the '00 E\-One Cyclone assigned to E13 before E21?

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E-13's 2000 E\-One cyclone (S-120) was assigned to E-21 after 21's E\-One was involved in an accident. I believe they ran with S-120 until they received their new wagon a few years ago.
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Engine 20's rig that is the roll over monument was old Engine 9. When they got the Seagrave the E1 went to E20. And I think E21's old E1 was the one that was involved in the accident with E9.
"RIP" Brothers Carter,Phillips,Matthews,Robinson & McRae!!
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“Don’t worry, Bill”, I said. “A few years from they’ll be talking about someone rolled a rig, or 21 was using old 1’s after the wreck with 9's new cab and blah blah blah. No one will ever remember you forgot to open the door.”



Engine 5’s Pirsch in quarters, mostly. Billy Wolf talking listening on the phone. c1979
Kevin Byrne
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[quote name='dcfdtech' timestamp='1299714670' post='428753']

Engine 20's rig that is the roll over monument was old Engine 9. When they got the Seagrave the E1 went to E20. And I think E21's old E1 was the one that was involved in the accident with E9.

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The way I remember it, when the E\-One that E-21 had the accident with went out to have a new cab put on it, when it came back it never went to the streets and was assigned to the training academy.
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[quote name='Jaws' timestamp='1299725570' post='428777']

The way I remember it, when the E\-One that E-21 had the accident with went out to have a new cab put on it, when it came back it never went to the streets and was assigned to the training academy.

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I thought that when it came back it went back to E21. Now I may be wrong. I do now that they were told that dont except a new wagon cause that was all they were going to get. Nice pic Kev, BTW Congrats on getting the DFC-FF Deputy position on # 3.
"RIP" Brothers Carter,Phillips,Matthews,Robinson & McRae!!
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[quote name='dcfireman' timestamp='1299724414' post='428773']

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“Don’t worry, Bill”, I said. “A few years from they’ll be talking about someone rolled a rig, or 21 was using old 1’s after the wreck with 9's new cab and blah blah blah. No one will ever remember you forgot to open the door.”



Engine 5’s Pirsch in quarters, mostly. Billy Wolf talking listening on the phone. c1979

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Ouch, not the first time, not will it be that last.



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[quote name='dcfdtech' timestamp='1299727735' post='428781']

I thought that when it came back it went back to E21. Now I may be wrong. I do now that they were told that dont except a new wagon cause that was all they were going to get. Nice pic Kev, BTW Congrats on getting the DFC-FF Deputy position on # 3.

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I'm pretty sure that it went to the academy and didn't see any active time on the streets.
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Preview of the new DCFD Pierce Arrow XT. Shot these while at Pierce this last week.



DCFD

Pierce Arrow XT

25424-01

2000/500



[Image: 5541713805_d0b4be8c0c_b.jpg]
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Rick Mosher
Olathe, Kansas Fire Department
Engine Co. 4
Metro Kansas City, Missouri
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Preview of the new DCFD Pierce Arrow XT. Shot these while at Pierce this last week.



DCFD

Pierce Arrow XT

25424-01

2000/500



[Image: 5541712485_f181713174_b.jpg]
Member: F.O.O.L.S of OZ, IAFF L2542

www.kansasfiretrucks.com

Rick Mosher
Olathe, Kansas Fire Department
Engine Co. 4
Metro Kansas City, Missouri
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Preview of the new DCFD Pierce Arrow XT. Shot these while at Pierce this last week.



DCFD

Pierce Arrow XT

25424-02

2000/500



[Image: 5542288196_2fb684d97f_z.jpg]
Member: F.O.O.L.S of OZ, IAFF L2542

www.kansasfiretrucks.com

Rick Mosher
Olathe, Kansas Fire Department
Engine Co. 4
Metro Kansas City, Missouri
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The new DC Wagons aren't too horrible looking. The light package appears a little small though. Thanks for posting.
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[quote name='Shoop' timestamp='1300613713' post='430232']

The new DC Wagons aren't too horrible looking. The light package appears a little small though. Thanks for posting.

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I agree the light bars were not Whelen. They looked kind of small on the rig. I took a ton of photos inside and out. I will post them when I return from FDIC. Love the dual intake on the officer side. Overall an extremely tough rig "Urban Tough". The entire interior was Black and Red Linex. Has an Aux. E-Brake mushroom on the officer side motor house under a cover. They are defiantly "Attack Ready".



Stay Safe,

Rick
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Rick Mosher
Olathe, Kansas Fire Department
Engine Co. 4
Metro Kansas City, Missouri
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The lights are Code-3 after positive response from the current RS3 light package. Also, if you have the time to count the individual heads you would notice these wagons actually have more lights than any previous purchase.
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[quote name='MFD 61 KS' timestamp='1300623369' post='430237']

I agree the light bars were not Whelen. They looked kind of small on the rig. I took a ton of photos inside and out. I will post them when I return from FDIC. Love the dual intake on the officer side. Overall an extremely tough rig "Urban Tough". The entire interior was Black and Red Linex. Has an Aux. E-Brake mushroom on the officer side motor house under a cover. They are defiantly "Attack Ready".



Stay Safe,

Rick

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Are the hose beds straight across or stepped like the Seagraves?
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[quote name='MFD 61 KS' timestamp='1300602562' post='430209']

Preview of the new DCFD Pierce Arrow XT. Shot these while at Pierce this last week.



DCFD

Pierce Arrow XT

25424-02

2000/500



[Image: 5542288196_2fb684d97f_z.jpg]

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Rick, thanks for adding your shots. Looking forward to seeing more.
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Thanks for posting...hopefully I will get to see one working in the 4th Battalion soon.
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Not at Engine 4 thank God.
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It doesn't look like the rear hosebed is stepped like the Seagraves. The rear hosebed looks low enough to be practical for the troops. I'm very appreciative that the DCFD apparatus committee members place practicality above "looks"! After years and years of having E\-One and KME apparatus fall apart right under our feet, I'll gladly take Seagrave and Pierce apparatus. Photo credit to Atalantic Emergency Solutions facebook page.


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[quote name='RMKDFD' timestamp='1300644771' post='430299']

It doesn't look like the rear hosebed is stepped like the Seagraves. The rear hosebed looks low enough to be practical for the troops. I'm very appreciative that the DCFD apparatus committee members place practicality above "looks"! After years and years of having E\-One and KME apparatus fall apart right under our feet, I'll gladly take Seagrave and Pierce apparatus. Photo credit to Atalantic Emergency Solutions facebook page.

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DC has sharp looking rigs, rather I would say practicality over the latest trend. Some of this stuff is a joke if you still fight fire, especially for short handed departments. Thanks for the image.
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Don’t get me wrong. I appreciate nice looking fire apparatus as much as the next guy, but there’s a breaking point when “looks” or “style” takes a back seat to operational common sense. DCFD’s current Seagraves are some of the best apparatus ever spec’ed out by the department. A lot of thought was given to all members of the crew and what is expected of them to carryout their operational responsibilities at a fire or emergency scene. First and foremost consideration was given to the backstep fireman and what is expected of him.



Fire apparatus should be set up to work off of with consideration given to:



The members that have to use the apparatus.



The type of fire problems encountered by that specific jurisdiction.



The type of operations that are used by that specific department.



It’s nice to have a practical piece of apparatus to work off of, that looks nice, and doesn’t need major adjustments or modifications at the company level.



Just my two cents.



Semper Fidelis,
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