West Virginia - Need help

[wvguy38]

Elk District VFD (Mineral County)



Rescue Engine 141 - Pierce, I believe 750 water, 1250 gpm, but not 100% sure

[wvguy38]

Thats all I can find for now. Would like to have someone that can take more proffesional pics in the area. There are a lot of interesting rigs around.

[wvguy38]

Actually just found one more.



Keyser VFD's 1914 American LaFrance

[GA_Dave]

Also interested in verifying the water tank - I was given a variety of options on what the tank size might be.





1984 Ford C/Pierce Suburban

1000 gpm

job number E1666

ex- Richardsville, VA

A "rule of thumb" on Pierce bodies......There were basically three body lengths used, this being the shortest. Look at the compartment forward of the rear axle. If it is taller than it is wide, its the short body, if it's wider than tall, its the medium body. The long body had two compartment doors forward of the rear axle. Pierce rarely built odd-sized tanks, most are 500, 750, 1000, 1250, or 1500. Short bodies have 500 or 750 tanks. A look at the hosebed will determine which. If there is a taller tank and shallow hosebed, it's a 750. If it's a larger hosebed and a shorter tank, it's 500. With experience, this will become easier to judge. Same for the medium body, either 1000 or 1250 tanks, unless it has some unusual feature such as ladder storage under the hosebed. Sometimes a quick look under the rear wheelwell will reveal if the tank fills the entire space under the body. A medium body with rescue compartments may have a smaller tank than expected. The 1500 gallon tank will have the body with two doors ahead of the rear axle. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but this should help you guess.

[Guest]

[quote name='wvguy38' post='251072' date='Oct 1 2008, 15:46 ']Thats all I can find for now. Would like to have someone that can take more proffesional pics in the area. There are a lot of interesting rigs around.[/quote]

A couple of us have been known to prowl about that area, unfortunately not recently.

Here's a couple you may recall...

New Creek,WV

1980 Ford C/Grumman 1000/750

1993 photo by Warren Jenkins

[Guest]

Short Gap VFD, Mineral Co.,WV

1985 GMC/Grumman 1000/800

1995 photo by Warren Jenkins

[Guest]

[quote name='wvguy38' post='251070' date='Oct 1 2008, 15:43 ']Fort Ashby VFD (Mineral County)



Engine 37-13 - Sutphen, again no specs[/quote]

1986 Sutphen 1500/1000, rehabed in 2003 by Sutphen, note that canopy cab was raised slightly, but it was not 4-doored.

[Guest]

My wife and I will be spending the first weekend of November at the Bavarian Inn in Shepardstown, WVA, just outside Harpers Ferry I believe. As I am not at all familiar with this area, I'm hoping some FirePixers can point me in the direction of some apparatus I might be able to shoot assuming I can get an hour or two... :-) Thanks.

[e290l103]

RICHARDSVILLE VFD RICHARDSVILLE VA ENG. 1982 C-8000 1000 500





[quote name='mnsand' post='251058' date='Oct 1 2008, 15:15 ']I was told Flatwoods received this Ford commerical from Richardsville, Virgina - located in Culpeper County. Any of our Virginia firepicers recognize this truck since I have never been to Richardsville?



Also interested in verifying the water tank - I was given a variety of options on what the tank size might be.





1984 Ford C/Pierce Suburban

1000 gpm

job number E1666

ex- Richardsville, VA





I am beginning to gather that there are lots of interesting fire trucks in garages in West Virginia. Wish I had some time to spend visiting this area more.



Thanks to everyone for any additional info on these trucks.





Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA[/quote]

[wvguy38]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='251138' date='Oct 1 2008, 19:32 ']1986 Sutphen 1500/1000, rehabed in 2003 by Sutphen, note that canopy cab was raised slightly, but it was not 4-doored.[/quote]





I couldn't remember if this was the engine that was rehabed or the other. The unit actually rolled over an embankment on a structure fire. I think they just got too close to the side of the road and slid over.

[wvguy38]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='251136' date='Oct 1 2008, 19:24 ']A couple of us have been known to prowl about that area, unfortunately not recently.

Here's a couple you may recall...

New Creek,WV

1980 Ford C/Grumman 1000/750

1993 photo by Warren Jenkins[/quote]





Nice pic. The engine was placed out of service a few years ago. We tried to sell it, with no luck. It was eventually donated to the Mineral County Vocational Center for the fire science program.

[Shoe]

[quote name='Shoe' post='190078' date='Feb 18 2008, 21:44 ']Station 9 with Wheeling's two early 50's model Macks. Both in reserve at the time this was taken. Engine 12 on the left and Engine 3 on the right.[/quote]



I always thought these Macks were "B" models - but, as I look at this shot - I think they might have been "L" models. Any thoughts???

[Truckman]

[quote name='Shoe' post='251229' date='Oct 2 2008, 07:16 ']I always thought these Macks were "B" models - but, as I look at this shot - I think they might have been "L" models. Any thoughts???[/quote]





Shoe, They are "L" Series. Hard to tell what year they are. The "B" Series began in 1953 and ran through 1966.

[Shoe]

[quote name='Truckman' post='251239' date='Oct 2 2008, 09:23 ']Shoe, They are "L" Series. Hard to tell what year they are. The "B" Series began in 1953 and ran through 1966.[/quote]



I am enjoying learning these things. I thought that they were a 1950 and 1953. But it could possibly be a 1952. The former Fire Chief, Cliff Sligar said that he'd take either one of these and out-pump a newer rig any time. I have no doubt...

[Guest]

A few more from Mineral Co. WV.

Elk Garden VFD

1987 Pemfab/Grumman 1250/1200

1998 photo by Warren Jenkins

[Guest]

Tri-towns VFC,Piedmont, WV.

1991 Grumman Panther 1000/1000

1998 photo by Warren Jenkins

[Guest]

Tri-towns VFC, Piedmont,WV

old air truck

1979 Ford F-350/Somerset Welding & Steel

replaced mid 1990's

1992 photo by Warren Jenkins

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Finally, New Creek VFD

1968 Ford F750/J & J Bodies

500/1200 gal., replaced with 1150 gal tank in 1985.

Whatever happened to this rig???

c.1990 photo by David Bowen, Jenkins collection

[wvguy38]

This was the old 38-12. It was placed out of service back in 2001, when we placed the new 38-12 (aka Engine/Tanker 38) in service. I'm not sure where it is at this moment, but it was for sale for a while without success. Next we placed the apparatus up for sealed bids. Allegany Quarries won the bid (can't remember the price, but was very very low). The rock quarry used the rig to wet down their roads, and preped areas for blasting. The quarry closed a few years ago though, thats why I'm not sure where it is. I'll do some checking to see if I can find out something.



We came to find out later that Pete Centifoni (who originally speced and sold the truck to us), if awarded the bid was going to restore the rig back to the original condition. Although Pete passed shortly after, I really would've loved to see it restored.

[Guest]

A personal favorite was this 1958 Ford F-800/ALF 750/1000, served until mid-90's and reportedly went to Koppers Tie plant in Green Spring,WV.?

1993 photo by Warren Jenkins